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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/Rename%20E-mentor%20to%20E-has-instructions/near/246580536" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Joshua Nelson <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/Rename.20E-mentor.20to.20E-has-instructions.html#246580536">(Jul 20 2021 at 13:03)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention silent" data-user-id="133169">matklad</span> <a href="#narrow/stream/238009-t-compiler.2Fmeetings/topic/planning.20meeting.202020.2E09.2E04/near/209101211">said</a>:</p>
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<p>it should be "there are mentoring instructions"</p>
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<p>Late to the party but we did rename <code>E-menotor</code> to <code>E-has-instructions</code> because of this in rust-analyzer</p>
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<p>are there any objections to doing this in rust-lang/rust? I think it describes the goal more clearly</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/Rename%20E-mentor%20to%20E-has-instructions/near/246602887" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/Rename.20E-mentor.20to.20E-has-instructions.html#246602887">(Jul 20 2021 at 15:01)</a>:</h4>
<p>or even <code>E-mentoring-instructions</code></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/Rename%20E-mentor%20to%20E-has-instructions/near/246603042" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/Rename.20E-mentor.20to.20E-has-instructions.html#246603042">(Jul 20 2021 at 15:01)</a>:</h4>
<p>unsure what's the process for this kind of changes to be honest</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/Rename%20E-mentor%20to%20E-has-instructions/near/246603060" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/Rename.20E-mentor.20to.20E-has-instructions.html#246603060">(Jul 20 2021 at 15:01)</a>:</h4>
<p>but <span aria-label="+1" class="emoji emoji-1f44d" role="img" title="+1">:+1:</span></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/Rename%20E-mentor%20to%20E-has-instructions/near/246604981" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Doc Jones <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/Rename.20E-mentor.20to.20E-has-instructions.html#246604981">(Jul 20 2021 at 15:14)</a>:</h4>
<p>What expectation are you intending to set?  The change sounds to me like "here are some instructions, good luck". </p>
<p>Is there a concern for the amount of time required to actually mentor the contributor through resolving the issue?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/Rename%20E-mentor%20to%20E-has-instructions/near/246605448" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Doc Jones <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/Rename.20E-mentor.20to.20E-has-instructions.html#246605448">(Jul 20 2021 at 15:17)</a>:</h4>
<p>If the goal is to limit the time requirement for the mentor through to issue completion and instead provide a comment with instructions, then definitely remove the word mentor.  That change will set the desired expectation.  So <code>E-has-instructions</code> would be the better fit.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/Rename%20E-mentor%20to%20E-has-instructions/near/246619387" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Joshua Nelson <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/Rename.20E-mentor.20to.20E-has-instructions.html#246619387">(Jul 20 2021 at 17:00)</a>:</h4>
<p>Hmm, so my initial reaction was "I don't know if people will still be active if you look at an old issue". But if it's so old people might have left the project, then the instructions are probably not relevant anymore. I don't think we can capture that in two words; I would be happy with either mentoring-instructions or has-instructions. I do think mentor on its own is misleading though.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/Rename%20E-mentor%20to%20E-has-instructions/near/246636983" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Doc Jones <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/Rename.20E-mentor.20to.20E-has-instructions.html#246636983">(Jul 20 2021 at 19:25)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention silent" data-user-id="232545">Joshua Nelson</span> <a href="#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/Rename.20E-mentor.20to.20E-has-instructions/near/246619387">said</a>:</p>
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<p>Hmm, so my initial reaction was "I don't know if people will still be active if you look at an old issue". But if it's so old people might have left the project, then the instructions are probably not relevant anymore. I don't think we can capture that in two words; I would be happy with either mentoring-instructions or has-instructions. I do think mentor on its own is misleading though.</p>
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<p>If the goal is to consider when there is no mentor, then the word mentor surely doesn't belong.</p>



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